Hard drive info

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ok... i only have like 6gigs left each one on my hd (i have two) so i wanna get a new hardrive n i dont want an external.... i just rather not have something outside... anyways... my motherboard only supports two SATA driver... which is already taken by my two drives....but my motherboard also supports UltraDMA...i was wondering what ULTRADMA is and which harddrives support it... im looking for a fast harddrive with at least 300GB or greater... n my motherboard is Asus A8V deluxe Via K8T800 Pro Chipset with Dual Channel DDR...thanx in advance
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This isnt troubleshooting, but they want it there anyways. Tis more of a tech question than a statement.
Most hard drives support UltraDMA its ATA Parallel ATA... IDE...
all those are just another name for UltaraDMA
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awdark is correct
however.
IDE Drives are cheaper but would perform a little less efficient (but no one notices it).
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Yeah PATAs are definitely cheaper. Heh I'm using two PATAs because my obsolete mobo doesn't have SATA slots :
And I don't know about SATA but with every IDE cable you can attach 2 harddrives, so if you can just find one PATA slot you can add 2 harddrives ;D~
There's a couple of good deals on 300GB PATA drives going on right now
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Yeah PATAs are definitely cheaper. Heh I'm using two PATAs because my obsolete mobo doesn't have SATA slots :
And I don't know about SATA but with every IDE cable you can attach 2 harddrives, so if you can just find one PATA slot you can add 2 harddrives ;D~
There's a couple of good deals on 300GB PATA drives going on right now
i agree.. but the internal clutter of IDE cables is annoying.. even when you have the rounded ones.. annoying because it jams things up..
SATA is better because it's supposed to do more proccess at once (or something like that).
but there is no difference because every brand has a Bridge Chip from PATA to SATA (Western digital, maxtor, samsung and whatever).. that means they are not native SATA HDD's.. the only native sata's are the seagates. Which dont have a cheap ass bridge chip to make it look like a SATA but have the same performance.
you can tell by looking if there is a molex adaptor aswell as a SATA power adaptor. the seagates have no molex power adaptors because it requires a little more power.
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i agree.. but the internal clutter of IDE cables is annoying.. even when you have the rounded ones.. annoying because it jams things up..
SATA is better because it's supposed to do more proccess at once (or something like that).
but there is no difference because every brand has a Bridge Chip from PATA to SATA (Western digital, maxtor, samsung and whatever).. that means they are not native SATA HDD's.. the only native sata's are the seagates. Which dont have a cheap ass bridge chip to make it look like a SATA but have the same performance.
you can tell by looking if there is a molex adaptor aswell as a SATA power adaptor. the seagates have no molex power adaptors because it requires a little more power.
For a fact i know WD has native Sata drives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And that power statement stating If a Drive has SATA power and a Molex connection is false. WD includes the Molex to its Native Sata drives and calls it flex power a feature i guess lol. Since Seagate doesnt offer a choice of power besides a converter or a psu with native sata power.

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For a fact i know WD has native Sata drives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And that power statement stating If a Drive has SATA power and a Molex connection is false. WD includes the Molex to its Native Sata drives and calls it flex power a feature i guess lol. Since Seagate doesnt offer a choice of power besides a converter or a psu with native sata power.
correct about the power statement. (i'm stupid _)
but
western digital hdd's (most of the standard SATA ones from 80-250GB that i've seen have) have been using the Marvelll PATA to SATA Bridge chip. you can tell by the pic below
(IMG:http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2003/918/88i8030.jpg)
Read about the WD Raptor 36GB with a Bridge.
HERE
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correct about the power statement. (i'm stupid _)
but
western digital hdd's (most of the standard SATA ones from 80-250GB that i've seen have) have been using the Marvelll PATA to SATA Bridge chip. you can tell by the pic below
(IMG:http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2003/918/88i8030.jpg)
Read about the WD Raptor 36GB with a Bridge.
HERE
yeah they did bridge alot of drives from pata to sata i never said they didnt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The 36gig raptor is one of them, an old drive.
The Raptor 150/ Raptor X and some of there mainstream drives are now native sata
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I doubt you'll be able to tell the difference unless you pair hard drives together with a decent raid controller. As far as I'm concerned the only benefit you'll see when having a single SATA HD is...
• Hotplug/backplane
• Enclosure management
• Interoperability with SAS
• Backward compatibility with various speeds
• Higher performance
• Ease of integration – no more jumpers
• Improved air flow
Then when coupled with a good raid card you'll be able or should be able to make use of...
• Enhanced performance (faster transfer rate and NCQ)
• Enhanced reliability (expanded CRC and latching connectors)
• System integration flexibility
Serial ATA supports data rates up to 150 MB/s, versus the embraved industry standard of 100 MB/s for Parallel ATA. The new interface also provides for command queuing to further boost system performance.
Then again it's good to plan for the future, so SATA is good in the long run.
Here are some drives you might wanna look at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....35907918&ATTR7=
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yeah so i just bought this hd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144423
im still confused a lil.. with the comp lingo...so are u saying sata hd can connect to the ultradma....and i was looking at my computer... and i only have 2 power cables and they are all used up... how do i add another one? n thanx for all the replies
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yeah so i just bought this hd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144423
im still confused a lil.. with the comp lingo...so are u saying sata hd can connect to the ultradma....and i was looking at my computer... and i only have 2 power cables and they are all used up... how do i add another one? n thanx for all the replies
In the packaging you should at least have 1 or 2 of these cables.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16812101120
That should answer your question about supplying power and UltraDMA is a transfer mode which you can browse in the Device Manager under Primary IDE Channel. Right click on it and select properties, advanced settings.
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yeah so i just bought this hd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822144423
im still confused a lil.. with the comp lingo...so are u saying sata hd can connect to the ultradma....and i was looking at my computer... and i only have 2 power cables and they are all used up... how do i add another one? n thanx for all the replies
I have the SATA II 16 mb cache 250 gig version of that.
Seems slow compared to my old maxtor. =\
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thanx for all the info...when i get my new hd ill update on the install
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yeah they did bridge alot of drives from pata to sata i never said they didnt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The 36gig raptor is one of them, an old drive.
The Raptor 150/ Raptor X and some of there mainstream drives are now native sata
haha sorry i misread _
i havent really read anyhitng abotu the 150Raptor.. not yet.
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