About my brother again...

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Remember that cocky, .. immature, and rebellious brother of mine? the one who blamed the parents for the poor PSAT score.. the one who didn't feel loved because he feltthat a parent's love is .. fake.. because it's a parent's job
Well, he's back, after about three months of peaceful .. something.
Anyways, what began as a dispute of his failure to do his chores and his making my mom cry because of his yelling at her (because she keeps asking him to do the chore that he forgets to do), turns out to be a world of hurt for not just my mom but my dad as well...
So during this discussion, my dad talked to him about how my brother never washes the dogs, never cleans the dishes, and never does pretty much everything my mom asks him.
As things drag on, my brother says things like (or something like)...
I don't feel like I'm a part of this family, so I don't care about him [Balto] - that really hurted my dad
The first hug or 'I love you' I've ever felt was not from you guys [mom and dad] - yes, wtf..
I don't do it [the chores] because I feel like I'm a slave
When I leave, I'm never gonna come back
Well, yea, my parents are hurt as much as they were back when I posted another topic like this. My dad's quiet... and pale, and my mom pretty much releases all her feelings to me. So now I'm involved... They talk to him like this... pretty often, so talking some more probably wouldn't work. But my parents say they don't understand why he's rebellious because he's practically an adult (17), and they were never like this. They feel so betrayed.
I mean.. imagine having a baby. You feed him, care for him, and love him to death. Years later, he hates you and says he doesn't need you. He doesn't even feel like a part of you. Well, that sucks. You gave him your love, your care, and your heart. And He gives you .. nothing.
So, psychologist maybe?
Btw, since I'm making a thread.. I thought I might say...
I hate latin soooooo much.... TT__________TT my grades.... TT_TT
I need a girlfriend... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tears.gif)
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I don't think it's your parents that need a psychologist but more like your brother.
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^oh that's what I mean..
like.. they talk to one and discuss about him...
or.. is it he talk to them.. and .. yea
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I don't think it's your parents that need a psychologist but more like your brother.
hell yeh..or off to boot camp with his booty. RAWR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)
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^oh that's what I mean..
like.. they talk to one and discuss about him...
or.. is it he talk to them.. and .. yea
Or all three of them can go see a psychologist together.
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i think he just needs a good old fashion beating.....kids these days gaaaaah.
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i wish i could help you...
but my brother is no different.

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Erik Erickson-- pyschology on child developement...
The first few stages on the ego strengths are: trust/mistrust.
I guess your borther never passed that stage because if he did, he would be able to tell who loves him and who doesn't.
Maybe your bro is depressed or something.
I think what you said is a good idea; for your brother to go and see a physiatrist.
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have u tried talkn to him? if what he says that its a parents job to feed their kids and all that, what would happen if they didnt do their job? n whats his job? to b a son, not one who talks back to his mom or dad or his elders. ur parents dont need to b sad about this whole thing because they did the best they can for u n ur siblings, n if ur brother is too stubborn, ignorrant, and stupid to figure that out, then he needs to re-evaluate himself. sure its a parents job to feed their son/daughter and to give them a home and such, but did he ever realize that they couldve jus abandon him or given him to a foster home like other ppl have done? he should b grateful of what he has and not complain about every lil thing that becomes his obstacle. its not ur parent's fault for him not doing good in school and all that, but its his fault. does he think that ur parents need to hold his f***n hands throughout life? does he think that good things will happen to him out of thin air? he needs to work hard for that $hit. for his poor grades, that's his fault cuz everyone can get good grades, its jus how they apply themselves. man i hate ppl like ur brother who blames other ppl, especially parents and such for their own mistakes and not man enough to face facts that their own lives are in their hands n not in the hands of others.
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i had a session like that a while back. i felt pretty damn bad after i realized the insanity. went to a psychologist. i was having other health problems too at the time so they ran tests on me and found that supposedly some hormone level thing whack in my brain. yeah whatever, it wasn't a excuse and i know that. i love my parents and i know they love me. i am very grateful that they didn't just kick me out of the house with all my emotional instability. i was in a lot of pain during that period so i think it might be hurting your brother as much as it's hurting them. self denial over some sort of failure?
i blamed them for my stupidity also and called their love an obligation. funny how it also started not long after i got back my psat results, but i didn't consider my score bad. you brother had a relapse after 3 months? i hope i don't go through one.
a psychologist would be good. i forgot which one prescribes the meds, psychologist or psychiatrist.
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i`d have my bf go beat some sense into him
BOOT CAMP
i heard it does do wonders and everyone cracks.
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hell yeh..or off to boot camp with his booty. RAWR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)

yep...my older sister would say he needs a good kick in the rear-end (she wouldn't hesitate). He has some nerve acting like that--kind of sounds similar to what my younger sister pulls (much older than your bro-could use boot camp herself) --blames all problems on someone else, and never takes any responsibility for anything she does. Sorry you and your family have to go through this, bLufurBaLL. Sounds like you're the hyung there. My sister is counselor-shy, anyone she has seen has messed her up even worse...but we're hoping she'll find a decent one eventually--and maybe like misz___xjay said--counseling for your parents and brother. I'm not sure how much of a 'phase' it is--since from what I remember in your first post about him--it's been going on more than just a few months. Also a maybe--like seraphic.shot suggetsted--he may have some kind of problem none of you know about.
I just wish you luck--I know what it's like to live with that every day. If your brother won't go to counseling--maybe it would help your parents deal better. =/
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i`d have my bf go beat some sense into him
BOOT CAMP
i heard it does do wonders and everyone cracks.
i agree, bootcamp it is.
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I say... Old fashioned beating... or grounding him? And if that happens don't back down...
And also... Is your brother like preteens?? teens? It could just be this rebellious stage that all teenagers go through. (Some better than others...) Nonetheless... It might be just that and all you can really do is just let it go. Just keep on living. (While he's being punished for not doing chores and stuff.)
*sigh*
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You know what, if he says that he doesn't need anyone of you all and that if he leaves he's never coming back, show him the door. He's a big boy, I'm sure he'll be just fine.
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Just dump his unthankful ass in the street, then see how his additude changes .
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what he's 17 and he acts like this, i though he was like 13 or 14. I'm sorry to say but your parents dont need a son like him.
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i knew someone just like that.
he went to the marines and came back.. he's so respectful to his parents now, they're really proud of how much he changed and how much he supports them now.
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lagged. sorry for double posting
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ur brother needs a b*tch slap and a reality check. the world doesnt revolve around him and he's gotta wake up and appreciate what his parents gave him. some may call him a lil punk b*tch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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