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What do you view khaki as being?
A nuetral that you can work with black or do you treat it as a super super light brown?
Up until viewing most of the Black Fleece looks, where the models are wearing the pants I bought (with say a grey jacket) they have on black shoes, I had always treated it as needing to go with brown shoes/belt.
Do you look at what you're upper portion has on to match your shoes? E.G. Brown/navy/lavendar/green/some greys/etc jacket with khaki pants = brown shoes and some greys/black/some navy/etc with khaki pants = black shoes?
Your thoughts?
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As such...
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I view khaki as a very pale brown, but I like it better with black shoes. The jarring contrast works for me, better than the matchiness of brown shoes.
btw, your palette today is spot on. I really like the grey/khaki/black combo a lot
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Okay so I'm not the only one.
I never do brown/black and I always thought that khaki was best suited for browns; but, then I saw the styling of Black Fleece.
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I tend to go with what color shirt/jacket I'm wearing like you describe in your first post...so go with either brown or black shoes.
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To me, beige is neutral, grey is neutral but khaki is light brown. Your trousers look more beige than khaki to me in those photos, but there is a lot of light there which may be affecting the colour. That and my monitor...
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I wear Khaki and Black all the time. I don't wear much brown - earth tones freak me out - but when I do I mix it with grey and orange and pinks. I like Pink and Brown together.
Question for you SoCal, how is the quality of those BB Khakis? What other pants are they on par with?
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Light brown. I never use it with black.
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Light brown and I wouldn't wear black shoes with khaki pants.
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Khaki and all the other browns are colors. Buy a
color wheel and you will see.
It takes some practice to see, but all the common browns are colors. Lighter ones might be a yellow-orange "tint" (yellow-orange + white). Red-orange + yellow makes "honey brown." Orange "tone" (orange + black) is another common brown. You can also find browns with some unexpected combinations such as red-violet + yellow. Green and red, mixed, make a dark brown.
You can do great things with color if you pay attention to this stuff. Rather than "match," I think you get better results by building around complements, i.e., pairing a color with its opposite on the color wheel. If you want to get a bit more daring, you can achieve a pleasing balance among a range of colors by selecting them along the usual "split complimentaries," which is a base color plus the two on either side of its complementary (e.g., blue with red-orange and yellow-orange). Or work in "triads" (e.g., blue with red and yellow, or olive with red-orange and blue-violet). This is Color 101 and no original thought on my part, FWIW. People who sit around and cook up "palettes" for clothing and/or interior design are past such basics, but you can make some good confident decisions that lead to smashing original looks by paying attention to what's the color in your brown. Working strictly with the complementary, for example, you might work with your khakis, which are basically a yellow-orange tint, by sifting through your ties, blazers, sweaters, whatever, for something with a blue-violet shade (most people would call this a navy or a midnight blue -- it's bluer than "eggplant"). You get the idea ... by noting the main and accent colors of all your favorite things, you can better pair them with all your various browns and have a pleasing range of colors while not looking like a clown or going overboard with patterns.
You can do anything with black, white, and gray. Your outfit looks fine to me. The only problem with the true neutrals is that they become a crutch. It's like cooking with butter and salt. You can't really cook with these things until you learn to cook without them. It's pretty easy, and it's not much of a challenge to make something look good, when you often choose black or gray or white. It fills space for you. It limits the number of choices you need to make . It relieves you of the burden (or, prevents you from enjoying the opportunity) to do something a bit more challenging.
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color palettes to look at
scroll down for examples of brown and black ...
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Thanks for those posts, Dewey. The theory is too difficult for me to spend any time trying to apply (and I am not going to buy a color wheel), but I liked reading and thinking about it.
And socal, I love wearing a tan tropical wool suit I have with black shoes.
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Same here
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As someone you spent too many years in the army to mention, seeing black shoes with khakis was only shoes one saw with khakis.
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"Khaki" is a very broad term these days, and I've seen it applied to anything from very light olives to tans. I agree for the most part with Dewey, and don't look at any colors as "neutral".
That said, I like the affectation of the Thom Browne Black Fleece pairing of khaki with black - it's a nice nod to Americana. Of course, the reality (American guys pairing their pleated Bill's or Dockers with chunky black rubber soled shoes) is much uglier.
